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Stephen Miller calls whistleblower a ‘partisan hit job’ in fiery interview


>>Chris: KEVIN CORKE REPORTING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE, THANKS FOR THAT. JOINING US NOW, STEPHEN MILLER, SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT, WELCOME BACK TO “FOX NEWS SUNDAY.”>>THANKS FOR HAVING ME, CHRIS.>>Chris: LET’S START WITH THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC SUBPOENAS OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF A MASSIVE SET OF DOCUMENTS AS WELL AS FIVE WITNESSES FOR THIS WEEK. IT WILL PRESIDENT TRUMP COMPLY WITH THE HOUSE SUBPOENA?>>TO>>Stephen: THAT’S GOING TO BE BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT’S ATTORNEYS, WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL’S OFFICE AND THE HOUSE COMMITTEE. I HAVE NO NEWS UNFORTUNATELY TO MAKE ON THAT ISSUE BUT WHAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS THAT I THINK IT’S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE MEDIA CONTINUES TO DESCRIBE THIS INDIVIDUAL IS A WHISTLE-BLOWER AND HONORIFIC THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL MOST CERTAINLY DOES NOT DESERVE. A PARTISAN HIT JOB DOES NOT MAKE YOU A WHISTLE-BLOWER JUST BECAUSE YOU GO THROUGH THE WHISTLE-BLOWER PROTECTION ACT.>>Chris: WELL, FIRST OF ALL, HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS A PARTISAN HIT JOB, AND HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS NOT A WHISTLE-BLOWER IN FACT UNDER DNI, THE DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE RULES — WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET’S GO BACK TO THIS, AND WE’RE GOING TO JUMP AROUND A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I DIDN’T KNOW YOU WERE GOING TO GO HERE. HERE IS THE COMMENT FROM THE DNI, THE ACTING DNI BEFORE CONGRESS, JOE MAGUIRE, IN HIS TESTIMONY THIS WEEK, TAKE A LOOK.>>I BELIEVE THAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL HAVE ACTED IN GOOD FAITH THROUGHOUT. I HAVE EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING BY THE BOOK AND FOLLOW THE LAW.>>Chris: THAT IS THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE, JOE MAGUIRE, A LIFETIME SERVANT OF THIS COUNTRY, A NAVY SEAL, HE SAYS THAT THE WHISTLE-BLOWER WAS ACTING IN GOOD FAITH AND ACTION BY THE BOOK. ON WHAT BASIS DO YOU SAY THAT THIS WAS A PARTISAN HIT JOB?>>Stephen: FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU READ THE SEVEN-PAGE NANCY DREW NOVEL FOR THE WHISTLE-BLOWER PUT TOGETHER, IT DRIPS WITH CONDESCENSION, RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION AND CONTEMPT FOR THE PRESIDENT. IT’S ALSO LUDICROUS ON ITS FACE. IT DESCRIBES AN ELABORATE COVER-UP THAT ALSO, BY THE WAY, THE PRESIDENT DISCUSSED ON SEAN HANNITY, APRIL 25TH. WHAT KIND OF SECRET COVER OF ARE YOU ALSO DISCUSSING ON THE AIRWAVES OF FOX NEWS? FURTHERMORE, THE INSPECTOR GENERAL FOUND EVIDENCE OF POLITICAL BIAS IN THE INDIVIDUAL, WHICH IS NOT DISPUTED BY ANYBODY –>>Chris: WAIT A MINUTE. HE ALSO — BOTH THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND INSPECTOR GENERAL SAID THEY ALSO FOUND HIS COMMENTS TO BE CREDIBLE AND A MATTER OF URGENT CONCERN AND THEY TURNED IT OVER TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, SO DESPITE ALL THAT, THEY THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS A CREDIBLE — A COMPLAINT.>>Stephen: AND THEY ARE WRONG.>>Chris: ON WHOSE BASIS?>>Stephen: I WORK IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT NOW FOR NEARLY THREE YEARS. I KNOW AT THE DEEP STATE LOOKS LIKE. I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHISTLE-BLOWER AND A DEEP STATE OPERATIVE. THIS IS A DEEP STATE OPERATIVE, PURE AND SIMPLE. PEOPLE WHO HAVEN’T BEEN IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, WHO HAVEN’T WORKED IN THE WHITE HOUSE MEMO MAY NOT APPRECIATE THIS BUT THE SITUATION AS YOU HAVE A GROUP OF UNTUATION AS YOU HAVE A GROUP OF UNELATION AS YOU HAVE A GROUP OF UNELECION AS YOU HAVE A GROUP OF UNELECTON AS YOU HAVE A GROUP OF UNELECTED AS YOU HAVE A GROUP OF BUREAUCRATS WHO THINK THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE DOWN THIS PRESIDENT. I’LL ATTEND INTERAGENCY MEETINGS WHERE I KNOW FOR CERTAIN FACT IF I DON’T BUY THE RIGHT PEOPLE AT THE MEETING WILL LEAK. IF I DON’T SAY THE RIGHT THING, IT WILL GO TO THE HILL. IF WE PROPOSE A POLICY IDEA THAT THEY DON’T APPROVE OF, THEY WILL WORK WITH DEMOCRATIC APPROPRIATORS TO TRY TO BLOCK IT. IF THEY LICK THIS PRESIDENT’S PHONE CALLS, THE PUBLISHER HIT PIECES, THEY PUBLISH FAKE STORIES. THEY’VE BEEN DOING THIS CONTINUOUSLY FOR NEARLY THREE YEARS AND THEIR MOTIVES AND THEIR AGENDA IS CLEAR. THIS IS ABOUT DO YOU WANT A DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY OR DO YOU WANT A DEEP STATE. IT’S A BINARY CHOICE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.>>Chris: AGAIN, THIS PERSON YOU ARE ACCUSING THEM ALL THE SCUM OF THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE, JOE MAGUIRE, A LIFELONG SERVANT OF THIS COUNTRY SAID WAS ACTING IN GOOD FAITH AND GOING BY THE BOOK. ENOUGH WITH THE RHETORIC, LET’S TALK ABOUT SOME SPECIFIC FACTS IN THIS. WHY DID PRESIDENT TRUMP USES PRIVATE ATTORNEY RUDY GIULIANI, AND AS WE JUST REPORTED, TO OTHER PRIVATE LAWYERS TO TRY TO DIG UP DIRT FROM THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT ON JOE BIDEN RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH HIS STATE DEPARTMENT?>>Stephen: FIRST OF ALL, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHEN WE COULD TALK ABOUT “DIGGING UP DIRT,” IT’S AN INTERESTING CHOICE OF WORDS. ONE OF TWO THINGS IS TRUE, CHRIS. EITHER THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT, OR PEOPLE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, POSSESS A REAL AND ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE OF CORRUPT DEALINGS BY THE BIDEN FAMILY, OR THEY DON’T. IF THEY DO, IS IT NOT IN THE INTEREST OF ALL AMERICANS TO KNOW THAT IS?>>Chris: WE ARE GOING TO GET TO THE BIDEN’S IN A MINUTE BUT I ASK YOU A SPECIFIC QUESTION, I’D LIKE A SPECIFIC ANSWER. THE PRESIDENT HAS THE STATE DEPARTMENT, HE’S GOT THE CIA, HE’S GOT THE PENTAGON, HE’S GOT A NUMBER OF OTHER AGENCIES. WHY DID HE USE THREE PRIVATE LAWYERS TO GET INFORMATION ON BIDEN FROM THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT RATHER THAN GO THROUGH ALL OF THE AGENCIES OF HIS GOVERNMENT?>>Stephen: TWO DIFFERENT POINTS.>>Chris: HOW ABOUT ANSWERING MY QUESTION?>>Stephen: JOHN DURHAM, AS YOU KNOW –>>Chris: WAIT A MINUTE, JOHN DURHAM IS INVESTIGATING SOME A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. I’M ASKING YOU A DIRECT QUESTION, WHAT ARE THE PRESIDENT USE PRIVATE ATTORNEYS RATHER THAN GO TO THE STATE DEPARTMENT? IF YOU DON’T KNOW, THAT’S AN ACCEPTABLE ANSWER, BUT LET’S NOT TALK ABOUT JOHN DURHAM, WHO WAS INVESTIGATING THE TRUMP — SPEECH OF THEIR TWO ISSUES –>>Chris: WHY DID HE DO IT?>>Stephen: I UNDERSTAND. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU HAVE YOUR QUESTION, I HAVE MY ANSWER. THERE’S TWO ISSUES THAT WERE BROUGHT UP A PHONE CALL –>>Chris: IT’S A NONANSWER AT THIS POINT.>>Stephen: THERE WERE TWO ISSUES BROUGHT UP IN THE PHONE CALL. ONE WAS UKRAINIAN KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE COLLUSION INVESTIGATION THAT IS INFLICTED SO MUCH PAIN AND DAMAGE ON OUR COUNTRY. MY POINT IS THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS APPOINTED SOMEBODY FROM THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT TO LOOK INTO THAT ISSUE. THEN THERE’S THE ADDITIONAL MATTER OF UKRAINIAN CORRUPTION, WHICH GIULIANI, AMONG OTHERS, ARE LOOKING AT. AND IT IS PROPER AND NATURAL FOR FRANKLY ANYBODY CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF UKRAINE AND THE UNITED STATES TO WANT TO KNOW INFORMATION ABOUT CORRUPT DEALINGS. WHAT I FIND ASTONISHING, CHRIS, IS THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SO ENRAGED ABOUT AN EFFORT TO FIND ANY TRUE AND ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE OF FOREIGN CROOK DEALINGS RELATED TO UKRAINE ARE THE SAME ONES WHO HAVE BEEN USING THE FOREIGN PRODUCED DOSSIER BY A BRITISH SPY TO PUT THIS COUNTRY THROUGH UNENDING POLITICAL TURMOIL. SPIRIT I’M ASKING QUESTION AS TO WHY — I’M SIMPLY ASKING YOU A QUESTION AS TO WHY THE PRESIDENT DIDN’T USE HIS GOVERNMENT. IF YOU APPARENTLY ARE NOT GOING TO ANSWER THAT, I WILL ASK ANOTHER QUESTION. WHY DID THE PRESIDENT DECIDE TO WITHHOLD $391 MILLION IN MILITARY AID TO UKRAINE LAST JULY? THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED BY CONGRESS?>>Stephen: THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN CLEAR AND CONSISTENT ON THIS ISSUE, NOT MERELY FOR THE TIME IS BEEN IN OFFICE, HIS WHOLE TIME AS A CANDIDATE AND FRANKLY DECADES BEFORE THAT.>>Chris: I SIMPLY ASKING WHY IN JULY DID THEY DECIDE TO WITHHOLD THE AID?>>Stephen: THE PROBLEM OF BURDEN SHARING IN UKRAINE AND WITH OUR NATO ALLIES, HE’S BEEN CLEAR AND CONSISTENT ON THIS ISSUE. PLUS THE MATTER OF UKRAINIAN CORRUPTION. FOR REASONS I CANNOT FATHOM, THE MEDIA, WHICH IS ORDINARILY INTERESTED IN SUNSHINE AND TRANSPARENCY ABOVE ALL ELSE, IS REMARKABLY UNSERIOUS ABOUT THE INFORMATION UKRAINE POSSESSES ABOUT THE CORRUPTION OF THE PREVIOUS AT ADMINISTRATION –>>Chris: OKAY, BUT LET’S JUST MAKE THIS POINT. IN MAY, AS PART OF A REGULAR INTERAGENCY PROCESS, IN MAY, TWO MONTHS BEFORE HE WITHHELD THE AID, THE PENTAGON CERTIFIED TO CONGRESS — CERTIFIED, A FORMAL PROCESS — CERTIFIED TO CONGRESS AFTER A RIGOROUS PROCESS AND AFTER CONSULTATION WITH THE STATE DEPARTMENT THAT UKRAINE HAD MADE DRAMATIC PROGRESS IN FIGHTING CORRUPTION AND THAT THE AID SHOULD BE RELEASED. WHY DID THE PRESIDENT, IF THE ARGUMENT IS CORRUPTION, WHY DID THE PRESIDENT GO AGAINST HIS OWN PENTAGON AND HIS OWN STATE DEPARTMENT?>>Stephen: CHRIS, I DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN ASK A UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN ASK K UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN ASK T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN ASK E QUESTION WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ADMONISHING THE PRESIDENT OR WANTING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF PERHAPS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CORRUPTION SCANDALS CONCERNING UKRAINE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS –>>Chris: ARE NOT ADMONISHING ANYBODY, ABSENTLY ASKING WHY DID HE — I MEAN THIS IS — WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS IS AN EXERCISE IN OBFUSCATION. WHY DID THE PRESIDENT GO AGAINST HIS OWN PENTAGON AND STATE DEPARTMENT?>>Stephen: THERE’S A TONE OF JUDGMENT IN ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS, SO YES, YOU ARE ADMONISHING –>>Chris: THAT’S JUDGMENT ON YOUR PART.>>Stephen: I CAN’T SPEAK TO EVERY MID-LEVEL AND LOW LEVEL BUREAUCRAT IN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT –>>Chris: THIS IS THE DEPUTY SECRETARY OF DEFENSE. WHAT YOU CONSIDERED JOHN BROOD A MINYAN IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT? IN A PENTAGON?>>Stephen: IT’S THE PRESIDENT ‘HIS JOB AND SWORN DUTY TO SAFEGUARD TAXPAYER DOLLARS AND THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT’S FOREIGN POLICY. GETTING TO THE BOTTOM OF A CORRUPTION SCANDAL IN UKRAINE IS IN THE AMERICAN NATIONAL INTEREST IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY THAT COMPLAINT IS SO OBVIOUSLY POLITICALLY BIASED, WHEN HE SAYS THAT THE PRESIDENT IS THREATENING NATIONAL SECURITY BY TRYING TO EXPOSE CORRUPTION — WHEN HE SAYS, OR SHE, THAT THE PRESIDENT IS HURTING NATIONAL SECURITY BY TRYING TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF A GIGANTIC SCANDAL THAT NOBODY HAS ON EARTH, THE PRESIDENT IS THE WHISTLE-BLOWER HERE. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS THE WHISTLE-BLOWER IN THIS INDIVIDUAL IS A SABOTEUR TRYING TO UNDERMINE A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT.>>Chris: SABOTEUR, IS HE A SPY? IS A COMMITTING TREASON?>>Stephen: I DO NOT KNOW –>>Chris: THE PRESIDENT SAID THAT, YOU KNOW.>>Stephen: THE PRESIDENT CORRECTLY POINTED OUT THAT THE BEHAVIOR OF THIS INDIVIDUAL IS CLOSE TO A SPY. I DON’T KNOW WHO THE INDIVIDUAL IS, ALL I KNOW IS AT SOME POINT, CHRIS, WE HAVE TO FOCUS THE REAL SCANDAL, WHICH IS THREE YEARS OF DEEP STATE SABOTAGE.>>Chris: I’M GOING TO TALK ABOUT A DIFFERENT SCANDAL AND YOU’LL BE VERY HAPPY THAT I’M HEADED A TEAR. THE PRESIDENT SAYS THE REAL STORY IS THE CORRUPTION BY VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND HIS SON HUNTER BIDEN, WHO WAS ON THE BOARD OF THE UKRAINIAN ENERGY COMPANY. HOW, SPECIFICALLY — I’M GOING TO GIVE YOU ONE MINUTE UNINTERRUPTED — HOW SPECIFICALLY TO THE BIDENS BREAK THE LAW IN UKRAINE?>>Stephen: THE BURISMA COMPANY, AS YOU KNOW, WAS UNDER INVESTIGATION. IT HAS A UKRAINIAN OLIGARCH BEHIND IT WHO WAS UNDER INVESTIGATION. WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS SEVERE CONCERNING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION OF THE TIME ABOUT BIDEN BEING APPOINTED AS THE LEAD ON UKRAINIAN POLICY AND HIS SON GETTING A LUCRATIVE $50,000 A MONTH DEAL WITH THE COMPANY. THE SUN HAD NO EXPERIENCE IN THE LEGAL ISSUES –>>Chris: HOW DID YOU BREAK THE LAW?>>Stephen: KNEW NOTHING ABOUT UKRAINIAN LAW AND NOTHING ABOUT NATURAL GAS, THE ISSUE OF THE HEART OF THE COMPANY. THE BIDEN MEN THREATENED TO WITHHOLD A BILLION DOLLARS IN AID UNLESS THE PROSECUTOR WAS FIRED.>>Chris: YOU REALIZE THAT ALSO THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND, ALMOST EVERY OTHER GOVERNMENT IN THE WEST WAS ALSO ASKING FOR THAT PROSECUTOR TO BE FIRED AND THAT IN FACT, IN FACT, THERE WAS NO INVESTIGATION GOING ON OF BURISMA, THE NAME OF THE COMPANY AT THAT TIME.>>Stephen: I DON’T KNOW THAT TO BE TRUE.>>Chris: IT IS TRUE.>>Stephen: I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE HAVE SAID BUT THE REALITY IS THAT WHY IS THE MEDIA SO OBSESSED WITH EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF THIS INVESTIGATION BUT THEY DON’T WANT TO UNCOVER THE POTENTIAL CORRUPT DEALINGS OF HUNTER BIDEN AND HIS FATHER?>>Chris: I HAVE ONE LESS QUESTION TO ASK YOU AND I DO WANT TO PUT THIS ON –>>Stephen: WHILE THORNTON ABOUT CHINA?>>Chris: HERE IS THE PROSECUTOR GENERAL OF UKRAINE FOR THREE YEARS, INCLUDING THE PERIOD DURING WHICH PRESIDENT TRUMP SPOKE WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY IN JULY OF 2019. HERE HE IS THIS WEEK. TAKE A LOOK.>>I DON’T KNOW ANY VIOLATION OF UKRAINIAN LAW — ONCE AGAIN, UKRAINIAN LAW, BY BIDEN AND BIDEN JR.>>Chris: HE WAS THE PROSECUTOR GENERAL AT THE TIME THE PRESIDENT CALLED THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT — SAYS JOE BIDEN AND HIS SON DID NOTHING WRONG.>>Chris: IF YOU’RE GOING TO USE THEM AS A WITNESS YOU HAVE TO ALSO ANALOGIES MADE INCREDIBLY DAMNING ALLEGATIONS AGAINST UKRAINE AND THE GOVERNMENT INVOLVING THE ORIGINS OF THE 2016 RUSSIAN COLLUSION EXPERIENCE E. IF YOU’RE GOING TO USE A WITNESS YOU HAVE TO TAKE ALL OF IT ARE NONE OF IT. YOU CAN’T PICK AND CHOOSE, IT’S NOT A BUFFET.>>Chris: OKAY, BUT I GUESS THE POINT IS IF HE IS CLEARLY SAYING THOSE THINGS ABOUT UKRAINE AND THE 2016 ELECTION, HE’S NOT CARRYING WATER FOR JOE BIDEN, HE SAYS JOE BIDEN — YOU CAN’T PICK OR CHOOSE EITHER.>>Stephen: I’M NOT.>>Chris: YOUR SAYING “WE AGREE WITH HIM ON THIS BUT WE DON’T ON THE OTHER.” WELCOME TO THE BUFFET.>>Stephen: I’M SAYING AN INVESTIGATION IS URGENTLY NEEDED WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PATTERN OF FACTS BUT THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT POINT IS THIS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IN 2016 SAID WE WANT IN A COMPLETELY NEW DIRECTION FOR OUR COUNTRY. THEY ELECTED NEW LAWMAKERS AND THEY ELECTED A NEW PRESIDENT TO DELIVER THAT DIRECTION. HE’S THE THE SOLE ELECTED PERSON IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.>>Chris: THAT’S NOT TRUE. IT GOT THE VICE PRESIDENT AS WELL.>>Stephen: YES. THE ALL EXECUTIVE POWER IS VESTED IN THE PRESIDENT BUT THERE ARE DEEP STATE OPERATIVES WHO FOR THREE YEARS HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT TRY TO LEAK, UNDERMINE, HURT, AND HARM THE ABILITY OF THIS PRESIDENT TO INSTITUTE THIS CHANGE. DO WE WANT TO BE GOVERNED BY AN UNELECTED BUREAUCRACY OR BY A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT? IS THE SOLE ISSUE FACING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.>>Chris: THE ONLY POINT I WOULD MAKE IT, AND I HAVE TO MOVE ON, IS THAT IN 2018, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ELECTED

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