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>>>WELCOME BACK TO “HARDBALL.”>>>WELCOME BACK TO “HARDBALL.” DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS ARE STILL DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS ARE STILL WORKING ON ARRANGEMENTS TO HEAR WORKING ON ARRANGEMENTS TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE WHISTLEBLOWER DIRECTLY FROM THE WHISTLEBLOWER WHOSE COMPLAINT HAS TRIGGERED WHOSE COMPLAINT HAS TRIGGERED THIS IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY INTO THIS IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY INTO PRESIDENT TRUMP. PRESIDENT TRUMP. AND THERE CONTINUES TO BE AND THERE CONTINUES TO BE CONCERN ABOUT OF COURSE THE CONCERN ABOUT OF COURSE THE WHISTLEBLOWER’S SAFETY. WHISTLEBLOWER’S SAFETY. TRUMP CONTINUED HIS ATTACKS ON TRUMP CONTINUED HIS ATTACKS ON THAT PERSON TODAY. THAT PERSON TODAY.>>HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO>>HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO CONCERNS THAT YOU ARE PUTTING CONCERNS THAT YOU ARE PUTTING THE WHISTLEBLOWER’S LIFE IN THE WHISTLEBLOWER’S LIFE IN DANGER? DANGER?>>WELL, THE WHISTLEBLOWER IS>>WELL, THE WHISTLEBLOWER IS VERY INACCURATE. VERY INACCURATE. NO REPUBLICANS HAVE RAISED NO REPUBLICANS HAVE RAISED CONCERNS. CONCERNS.>>– THAT THE WHISTLEBLOWER>>– THAT THE WHISTLEBLOWER SHOULD BE PROTECTED? SHOULD BE PROTECTED?>>LOOK, I THINK THE>>LOOK, I THINK THE WHISTLEBLOWER SHOULD BE WHISTLEBLOWER SHOULD BE PROTECTED IF THE WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTED IF THE WHISTLEBLOWER IS LEGITIMATE. IS LEGITIMATE. HE EITHER GOT IT TOTALLY WRONG, HE EITHER GOT IT TOTALLY WRONG, MADE IT UP OR THE PERSON GIVING MADE IT UP OR THE PERSON GIVING THE INFORMATION TO WHISTLEBLOWER THE INFORMATION TO WHISTLEBLOWER WAS DISHONEST AND THIS COUNTRY WAS DISHONEST AND THIS COUNTRY HAS TO FIND OUT WHO THAT PERSON HAS TO FIND OUT WHO THAT PERSON WAS BECAUSE THAT PERSON IS A SPY WAS BECAUSE THAT PERSON IS A SPY IN MY OPINION. IN MY OPINION.>>TRUMP’S UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS>>TRUMP’S UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS CAME AFTER ADAM SCHIFF SAID THE CAME AFTER ADAM SCHIFF SAID THE PRESIDENT IS INCITING VIOLENCE PRESIDENT IS INCITING VIOLENCE AGAINST THE WHISTLEBLOWER. AGAINST THE WHISTLEBLOWER.>>THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE>>THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO MAKE THIS ALL ABOUT THE WHISTLEBLOWER THIS ALL ABOUT THE WHISTLEBLOWER AND SUGGEST TO PEOPLE THAT COME AND SUGGEST TO PEOPLE THAT COME FORWARD WITH EVIDENCE OF HIS FORWARD WITH EVIDENCE OF HIS WRONGDOING ARE SOMEHOW WRONGDOING ARE SOMEHOW TREASONOUS AND SHOULD BE TREATED TREASONOUS AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS TRAITORS AND SPIES. AS TRAITORS AND SPIES. THIS IS A BLATANT EFFORT TO THIS IS A BLATANT EFFORT TO INTIMIDATE WITNESSES. INTIMIDATE WITNESSES. OATS AN INCITEMENT OF VIOLENCE. OATS AN INCITEMENT OF VIOLENCE.>>FOR MORE I’M JOINED BY>>FOR MORE I’M JOINED BY PRESIDENTIAL DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE KAMALA HARRIS. CANDIDATE KAMALA HARRIS. SENATOR, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF SENATOR, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS AS A FORMER PROSECUTOR? THIS AS A FORMER PROSECUTOR? THIS WITNESS INTIMIDATION, THIS WITNESS INTIMIDATION, SCARING A WITNESS, IT SEEMS SCARING A WITNESS, IT SEEMS ALMOST MOB-LIKE, RACKETEER-LIKE ALMOST MOB-LIKE, RACKETEER-LIKE TO SAY ALL RIGHT YOU’RE GOING TO TO SAY ALL RIGHT YOU’RE GOING TO GO UP THERE, YOU’RE GOING TO GO UP THERE, YOU’RE GOING TO TURN EVIDENCE AGAINST US FOR THE TURN EVIDENCE AGAINST US FOR THE STATE, LOOK OUT. STATE, LOOK OUT.>>WELL, THERE’S — THERE’S NO>>WELL, THERE’S — THERE’S NO QUESTION. QUESTION. I MEAN, IT’S JUST SO OBVIOUS, I MEAN, IT’S JUST SO OBVIOUS, CHRIS. CHRIS. IT’S NOT ACTUALLY — IT DOESN’T IT’S NOT ACTUALLY — IT DOESN’T REQUIRE MUCH CREATIVITY TO REQUIRE MUCH CREATIVITY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY DONALD FIGURE OUT WHAT EXACTLY DONALD TRUMP IS TRYING TO DO. TRUMP IS TRYING TO DO. HE’S TRYING TO INTIMIDATE THIS HE’S TRYING TO INTIMIDATE THIS WITNESS AND OTHERS. WITNESS AND OTHERS. AND IT IS TYPICAL OF HIS AND IT IS TYPICAL OF HIS BEHAVIORS WHICH IS THAT HE IS BEHAVIORS WHICH IS THAT HE IS NOT ONLY A BULLY BUT HE ALSO IS NOT ONLY A BULLY BUT HE ALSO IS ACTUALLY OBVIOUSLY MOTIVATED BY ACTUALLY OBVIOUSLY MOTIVATED BY FEAR WHICH IS THAT THE FEAR THAT FEAR WHICH IS THAT THE FEAR THAT THIS WHISTLEBLOWER IS GOING TO THIS WHISTLEBLOWER IS GOING TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE CREDIBLE COME FORWARD AND GIVE CREDIBLE INFORMATION WHICH IS ALREADY INFORMATION WHICH IS ALREADY DEEMED ON ITS FACE TO BE DEEMED ON ITS FACE TO BE CREDIBLE BY THE I.G. THAT IS CREDIBLE BY THE I.G. THAT IS GOING TO LEAD TO AN INEVITABLE GOING TO LEAD TO AN INEVITABLE CONCLUSION WHICH IS THE CONCLUSION WHICH IS THE IMPEACHMENT OF DONALD TRUMP. IMPEACHMENT OF DONALD TRUMP.>>LET ME ASK YOU YOUR BIG>>LET ME ASK YOU YOUR BIG THOUGHTS ABOUT THE RANGE AND THOUGHTS ABOUT THE RANGE AND SCOPE OF WHAT’S GOING ON RIGHT SCOPE OF WHAT’S GOING ON RIGHT NOW. NOW. I SAID IN AN EARLIER SEGMENT I I SAID IN AN EARLIER SEGMENT I THOUGHT TRUMP WAS IN THIS FOR THOUGHT TRUMP WAS IN THIS FOR HIMSELF AND NOW HE’S GOT THE HIMSELF AND NOW HE’S GOT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN CAHOOTS WITH ATTORNEY GENERAL IN CAHOOTS WITH HIM, SECRETARY OF STATE POMPEO HIM, SECRETARY OF STATE POMPEO IN CAHOOTS WITH HIM AND ALL IN CAHOOTS WITH HIM AND ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND IT SEEMS WORKING TOGETHER AND IT SEEMS NOW TO THE NASTY BUSINESS OF OPO NOW TO THE NASTY BUSINESS OF OPO RESEARCH ALL RUN BY THE RESEARCH ALL RUN BY THE PRESIDENT WITH THESE MEN BEHIND PRESIDENT WITH THESE MEN BEHIND HIM. HIM. THEY’RE NOT JUST SINKOFANTS LIKE THEY’RE NOT JUST SINKOFANTS LIKE LINDSEY GRAHAM. LINDSEY GRAHAM.>>IT’S NOT LIKE HE MADE THEM DO>>IT’S NOT LIKE HE MADE THEM DO ANYTHING. ANYTHING. THESE ARE GROWN MEN WHO ALL HAVE THESE ARE GROWN MEN WHO ALL HAVE PRE-EXISTING PRE-EXISTING PRE-EXISTING ROLES OF LEADERSHIP PRE-EXISTING ROLES OF LEADERSHIP AND AS MEMBER OF THE UNITED AND AS MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES, CONGRESS, AS GOVERNORS STATES, CONGRESS, AS GOVERNORS AND FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL, SO AND FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL, SO THEY KNOW WHAT THEY’RE GETTING THEY KNOW WHAT THEY’RE GETTING INTO WHEN THEY’RE DEALING WITH INTO WHEN THEY’RE DEALING WITH HIM AND WHEN THEY’VE ENGAGED IN HIM AND WHEN THEY’VE ENGAGED IN THE BEHAVIORS THEY’VE ENGAGED THE BEHAVIORS THEY’VE ENGAGED IN, APPARENTLY. IN, APPARENTLY. THEY NEED TO COME BEFORE THEY NEED TO COME BEFORE CONGRESS, THEY NEED TO TESTIFY CONGRESS, THEY NEED TO TESTIFY AND UNDER OATH AND TELL THE AND UNDER OATH AND TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY AMERICAN PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ALSO HAVE VIOLATED, APPARENTLY, ALSO HAVE VIOLATED, APPARENTLY, THE OATH OF OFFICE THAT THEY THE OATH OF OFFICE THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN. HAVE TAKEN. AND SO I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS TO AND SO I WOULD BE CAUTIOUS TO SUGGEST THEY’VE BEEN LULLED OR SUGGEST THEY’VE BEEN LULLED OR SEDUCED INTO SOMETHING. SEDUCED INTO SOMETHING. IF ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, IF IF ANY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS, IF ANY OF THESE MEN WANT TO WALK ANY OF THESE MEN WANT TO WALK AROUND WEARING THE LAPEL PIN AROUND WEARING THE LAPEL PIN THAT THEY WEAR AND HAVE A BUNCH THAT THEY WEAR AND HAVE A BUNCH OF STAFF RUNNING AFTER THEM, OF STAFF RUNNING AFTER THEM, CALLING THEM BY THEIR TITLE, NOW CALLING THEM BY THEIR TITLE, NOW THEY NEED TO COME BEFORE THE THEY NEED TO COME BEFORE THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS WEARING UNITED STATES CONGRESS WEARING THAT TITLE AND SPEAK TRUTH ABOUT THAT TITLE AND SPEAK TRUTH ABOUT WHAT THEY HAVE OR HAVE NOT DONE WHAT THEY HAVE OR HAVE NOT DONE IN TERMS OF EITHER VIOLATING THE IN TERMS OF EITHER VIOLATING THE OATH OF OFFICE THEY’VE TAKEN OR OATH OF OFFICE THEY’VE TAKEN OR ADHERING TO THE PROMISE THEY ADHERING TO THE PROMISE THEY MADE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS THEY MADE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS THEY HOLD THESE OFFICES IN THE PUBLIC HOLD THESE OFFICES IN THE PUBLIC TRUST, THAT THEY HOLD THESE TRUST, THAT THEY HOLD THESE OFFICES WITH LOYALTY THAT THEY OFFICES WITH LOYALTY THAT THEY SHOULD BE PLEDGING TO THE UNITED SHOULD BE PLEDGING TO THE UNITED STATES PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE OF OUR STATES PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE OF OUR COUNTRY, NOT DONALD TRUMP. COUNTRY, NOT DONALD TRUMP.>>YOU KNOW, IF POSSIBLE IF IT>>YOU KNOW, IF POSSIBLE IF IT COMES TO A SENATE TRIAL AND IT COMES TO A SENATE TRIAL AND IT MAY WELL BY THE END OF THIS YEAR MAY WELL BY THE END OF THIS YEAR WHERE YOU’LL BE A JUROR IN THAT WHERE YOU’LL BE A JUROR IN THAT TRIAL FOR REMOVAL OF THE TRIAL FOR REMOVAL OF THE PRESIDENT FROM OFFICE IF HE’S PRESIDENT FROM OFFICE IF HE’S IMPEACHED, IF THAT DEVELOPS AS IMPEACHED, IF THAT DEVELOPS AS THE HISTORY OF THIS YEAR, YOU’RE THE HISTORY OF THIS YEAR, YOU’RE GOING TO A VICE PRESIDENT OF THE GOING TO A VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO WOULD TAKE THE UNITED STATES WHO WOULD TAKE THE PRESIDENCY AFTER HAVING BEEN PRESIDENCY AFTER HAVING BEEN INVOLVED PERSONALLY IN CABAL INVOLVED PERSONALLY IN CABAL THAT WE’D BE IMPEACHING THE THAT WE’D BE IMPEACHING THE PRESIDENT FOR. PRESIDENT FOR. HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE HOW DOES THAT MAKE SENSE HISTORICALLY? HISTORICALLY? IF PENCE WAS PART OF THIS HOW IF PENCE WAS PART OF THIS HOW COULD HE SURVIVE AS PRESIDENT COULD HE SURVIVE AS PRESIDENT WHEN TRUMP GOES? WHEN TRUMP GOES?>>WELL, YOU’RE RAISING A VERY>>WELL, YOU’RE RAISING A VERY IMPORTANT POINT, WHICH IS THAT IMPORTANT POINT, WHICH IS THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS A LOT TO THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS A LOT TO ANSWER TO. ANSWER TO. AND HE ALSO SHOULD BE BROUGHT AND HE ALSO SHOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE UNITED STATES BEFORE THE UNITED STATES CONGRESS TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT CONGRESS TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY WAS HIS INVOLVEMENT AND EXACTLY WAS HIS INVOLVEMENT AND WHAT IF ANY SOLICITATIONS WERE WHAT IF ANY SOLICITATIONS WERE MADE PIE THE PRESIDENT TO HAVE MADE PIE THE PRESIDENT TO HAVE THE VICE PRESIDENT ENGAGE IN THE VICE PRESIDENT ENGAGE IN UNETHICAL CONDUCT. UNETHICAL CONDUCT. AND ILLEGAL CONDUCT. AND ILLEGAL CONDUCT.>>ALSO IF TRUMP IS DPAELT OF A>>ALSO IF TRUMP IS DPAELT OF A TRADE TO U.S. SURKT ARRANGEMENTS TRADE TO U.S. SURKT ARRANGEMENTS WITH A COUNTRY ENDANGERED BY THE WITH A COUNTRY ENDANGERED BY THE RUSSIANS AND MAYBE HE DID THE RUSSIANS AND MAYBE HE DID THE SAME THING. SAME THING. LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT EARLIER LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT EARLIER TODAY HOUSE SPEAKER PELOSI SAID TODAY HOUSE SPEAKER PELOSI SAID SHE THINKS PRESIDENT TRUMP IS SHE THINKS PRESIDENT TRUMP IS LASHING OUT AT THE DEMOCRATS LASHING OUT AT THE DEMOCRATS BECAUSE OF HIS FEAR OF BECAUSE OF HIS FEAR OF IMPEACHMENT. IMPEACHMENT. LET’S WATCH HER ANALYSIS. LET’S WATCH HER ANALYSIS.>>I THINK THE PRESIDENT KNOWS>>I THINK THE PRESIDENT KNOWS THE ARGUMENT THAT CAN BE MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT CAN BE MADE AGAINST HIM, AND HE’S SCARED. AGAINST HIM, AND HE’S SCARED. AND SO HE’S TRYING TO DIVERT AND SO HE’S TRYING TO DIVERT ATTENTION FROM THAT TO WHERE ATTENTION FROM THAT TO WHERE IT’S STANDING IN THE WAY OF IT’S STANDING IN THE WAY OF LEGISLATION. LEGISLATION.>>WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF HER>>WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF HER PERFORMANCE SO FAR ESPECIALLY IN PERFORMANCE SO FAR ESPECIALLY IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS? THE LAST TWO WEEKS?>>I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY>>I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY THANKFUL AT AT THIS MOMENT IN THANKFUL AT AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME THAT NANCY PELOSI IS THE TIME THAT NANCY PELOSI IS THE SPEAKER BECAUSE SHE HAS — AND SPEAKER BECAUSE SHE HAS — AND NO ONE CAN QUESTION THIS, SHE NO ONE CAN QUESTION THIS, SHE HAS BEEN THOUGHTFUL, SHE’S BEEN HAS BEEN THOUGHTFUL, SHE’S BEEN REFLECTIVE, SHE HAS BEEN REFLECTIVE, SHE HAS BEEN MEASURED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. MEASURED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. YOU KNOW, I LIKE SO MANY OTHER YOU KNOW, I LIKE SO MANY OTHER DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR IMPEACHMENT FOR SOME TIME. IMPEACHMENT FOR SOME TIME. NANCY PELOSI HAS BEEN VERY NANCY PELOSI HAS BEEN VERY MEASURED AND VERY TEMPERED IN MEASURED AND VERY TEMPERED IN THE WAY SHE’S APPROACHED THIS, THE WAY SHE’S APPROACHED THIS, AND THAT IS — THAT IS THE WAY AND THAT IS — THAT IS THE WAY THAT SHE OPERATES AND I HAVE THAT SHE OPERATES AND I HAVE NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR THE WAY NOTHING BUT RESPECT FOR THE WAY SHE’S BEEN HANDLING THIS ISSUE. SHE’S BEEN HANDLING THIS ISSUE.>>WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE>>WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE PRESIDENT’S REPORT THAT THE PRESIDENT’S REPORT THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WANTS CROCODILES, ALLIGATORS, WANTS CROCODILES, ALLIGATORS, SNAKES AND ALL SORTS OF SCARY SNAKES AND ALL SORTS OF SCARY ANIMALS IN THE WATER AND PEOPLE ANIMALS IN THE WATER AND PEOPLE FROM CROSSING THE RIO GRANDE, FROM CROSSING THE RIO GRANDE, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? THAT’S A FACTUAL REPORT. THAT’S A FACTUAL REPORT.>>YOU KNOW I’M AT A LOSS FOR>>YOU KNOW I’M AT A LOSS FOR WORDS EXCEPT TO SAY THAT THIS WORDS EXCEPT TO SAY THAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS A MENTALITY THAT PRESIDENT HAS A MENTALITY THAT REALLY IS ABOUT BEATING PEOPLE REALLY IS ABOUT BEATING PEOPLE DOWN AND DESTROYING THEM. DOWN AND DESTROYING THEM. YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A MOAT WITH YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A MOAT WITH ALLIGATORS AND SNAKES. ALLIGATORS AND SNAKES. HE’S TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK TO HE’S TALKING ABOUT GOING BACK TO SOME MEDIEVAL TACTIC BECAUSE SOME MEDIEVAL TACTIC BECAUSE APPARENTLY HIS BRAIN HAS NOT APPARENTLY HIS BRAIN HAS NOT EVOLVED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE EVOLVED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE MODERN APPROACHES TO DEALING ARE MODERN APPROACHES TO DEALING WITH IMMIGRATION AND IN WITH IMMIGRATION AND IN PARTICULAR WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO PARTICULAR WHAT REALLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS COMPREHENSIVE HAPPEN IS COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REFORM AND A PATHWAY IMMIGRATION REFORM AND A PATHWAY TO CITIZENSHIP. TO CITIZENSHIP.>>WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF MAYA>>WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF MAYA RUDOLF’S IMITATION OF YOU LAST RUDOLF’S IMITATION OF YOU LAST SATURDAY NIGHT? SATURDAY NIGHT? WAS THAT OVER THE TOP? WAS THAT OVER THE TOP? I THOUGHT IT WAS A BIT OVER THE I THOUGHT IT WAS A BIT OVER THE TOP. TOP. YOUR THOUGHTS. YOUR THOUGHTS. THERE IT IS, WE’RE WATCHING IT THERE IT IS, WE’RE WATCHING IT NOW. NOW.>>LOOK, I PLAN ON KEEPING MAYA>>LOOK, I PLAN ON KEEPING MAYA RUDOLF AND WORK FOR THE NEXT RUDOLF AND WORK FOR THE NEXT EIGHT YEARS. EIGHT YEARS.>>ANYWAY, I THINK YOU’RE MUCH>>ANYWAY, I THINK YOU’RE MUCH MORE RESTRAINED THAN THAT BUT MORE RESTRAINED THAN THAT BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH SENATOR KAMALA THANK YOU SO MUCH SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS OF CALIFORNIA FOR COMING HARRIS OF CALIFORNIA FOR COMING ON. ON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.>>>COMING UP U.S. CONGRESSMAN>>>COMING UP U.S. CONGRESSMAN ADAM SCHIFF SAYS HE’S NOT ADAM SCHIFF SAYS HE’S NOT FOOLING AROUND ON IMPEACHMENT FOOLING AROUND ON IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATION AS DEMOCRATS SET A INVESTIGATION AS DEMOCRATS SET A DEAD LINE FOR DOCUMENTS. DEAD LINE FOR DOCUMENTS. OF COURSE I WANT HIM TO DEFY OF COURSE I WANT HIM TO DEFY RIGHT NOW, KEEP BEING DEFIANT RIGHT NOW, KEEP BEING DEFIANT AND THAT’LL BE PART OF THE AND THAT’LL BE PART OF THE IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES.

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