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Joe Biden on Ukraine Transcript, Impeachment & Defeating Trump


>>Jimmy: IT IS AN HONOR AND A
PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE.
>>GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.
>>Jimmy: SO WHAT’S NEW?
ANYTHING GOING ON?
>>NOT MUCH AT ALL.
RUDY AND DONALD, I DON’T KNOW.
>>Jimmy: YOU’VE BEEN IN
POLITICS FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
HOW DOES THIS RANK AS FAR AS ON
THE OUTLAND ISHISH SCALE FOR YO
THE LAST 48 HOURS, WATCHING THIS
TRANSPIRE?
>>18 OUT OF 10.
>>Jimmy: MM-HM.
>>NO, THIS IS KIND OF BIZARRE,
YOU KNOW, IT’S RUDY GIULIANI IS
A GREAT CHARACTER WITNESS THE
PRESIDENT HAS.
>>Jimmy: MM-HM.
YEAH.
IT’S HARD TO BELIEVE HE WAS
MAYOR OF NEW YORK AT ONE TIME
AND SEEMED TO BE DOING AN OKAY
JOB.
IT’S LIKE HIS BODY HAS BEEN
TAKEN OVER BY ANOTHER BEING.
>>I DIDN’T KNOW THE PRESIDENT
COULD DO THAT.
>>Jimmy: MAYBE HE’S MORE
POWERFUL THAN WE REALIZE.
IT IS ALMOST LIKE YOU AND
PRESIDENT OBAMA LEFT THE DOOR TO
THE WHITE HOUSE OPEN AND A BEAR
GOT IN.
IT IS, IT’S CRAZY.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
HAVE YOU HEARD FROM PRESIDENT
OBAMA THIS WEEK?
>>NO, I HAVEN’T.
>>Jimmy: YOU HAVE NOT.
>>I HAVE NOT.
>>Jimmy: YOU GUYS DON’T TALK
ABOUT THIS KIND OF STUFF?
>>NO, WE DON’T TALK ABOUT THIS
KIND OF STUFF.
>>Jimmy: IS THERE A GOSSIP
ELEMENT TO THIS SORT OF THING,
OR DOES IT JUST TROUBLE YOU?
>>LOOK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU STEP
BACK FROM IT, THIS IS NOT ABOUT
ME AND MY FAMILY.
THERE’S NOT ONE SINGLE SOLITARY
LEGITIMATE JOURNALIST IN THE
WORLD GIVEN ANY CREDIBILITY TO
THIS.
THEY’VE DEBUNKED ALL OF WHAT HE
HAD TO SAY SINCE GIULIANI
STARTED THIS A WHILE AGO.
WHAT I DO WORRY ABOUT, I DO
WORRY ABOUT ALL THE OTHER
FAMILIES THAT CAN’T TAKE CARE OF
THEMSELVES AND WHAT’S HAPPENING
WITH THIS PRESIDENT AND HIS
CONSTANT DIVERSIONS INTO, LOOK,
WE WANT TO GET HIS ATTENTION,
HAVE 70 POLLS IN A ROW SHOWING
YOU’RE BEATING HIM AND THAT ALL
OF A SUDDEN GETS HIS ATTENTION.
>>I THINK THAT’S WHY I’M THE
OBJECT OF HIS ATTENTION.
BUT LOOK, THERE IS MUCH MORE AT
STAKE THAN WHETHER OR NOT HE’S
ACTING SO BIZARRELY.
THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE WOULD CALL
A HEAD OF A FOREIGN STATE, AHEAD
OF TIME, WITHHOLD SIGNIFICANT
AID WHEN THEY BADLY NEED IT TO
HOLD THE RUSSIAN SEPARATISTS IN
UKRAINE FROM TAKING OVER
UKRAINE, AND THEN ASK,
BASICALLY, TO, CAN YOU COOPERATE
WITH RUDY GIULIANI COMING OVER
AND THE THING I LEARNED, WE
LEARNED, WE ALL LEARNED RECENTLY
IS THAT STATEMENT THAT THE 2000
WORD STATEMENT RELEASED TALKED
ABOUT GETTING THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT ENGAGED IN THIS.
I MEAN, IT’S SUCH A BLATANT
ABUSE OF POWER THAT IT’S, IT
JUST, I DON’T THINK IT CAN
STAND.
>>Jimmy: YEAH, IT’S, WELL, DO
YOU THINK IT IS AN IMPEACHABLE
OFFENSE?
>>BASED ON THE MATERIAL THAT
THEY ACKNOWLEDGED TODAY, IT
SEEMS TO ME IT’S AWFUL HARD TO
AVOID THE CONCLUSION THAT IT IS
AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE AND A
VIOLATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL
RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT LOOK, THAT AE’S, I’M CONFID
IN THE ABILITY OF THE HOUSE AND
SENATE TO DEAL WITH THIS.
MY JOB IS TO JUST GO OUT AND
BEAT HIM.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
AND SO I, WHAT I CAN’T LET
HAPPEN, I CAN’T LET THIS
DISTRACT ME IN A WAY THAT TAKES
ME AWAY FROM THE ISSUES THAT
REALLY, THE REASONS THAT I’M
RUNNING, THIS IS THE FUND
AMOFUNDMENTAL
REASON, OUR VALUES.
HE DOESN’T WANT US TO PAY
ATTENTION TO HEALTH CARE, WHICH
YOU AND I BOTH KNOW A LOT ABOUT,
NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT DEALING
WITH THE ENVIRONMENT, NOT DO
ANYTHING ABOUT THE RAMPANT ABUSE
OF GUNS ON OUR STREETS.
I MEAN SO MANY THINGS.
LET ALONE THE INTERNATIONAL
ISSUES WE HAVE.
I MEAN, THIS GUY EMBRACES KIM
JONG UN, TALKS ABOUT HE BELIEVES
PUTIN OVER HIS INTELLIGENCE
COMMUNITY, I MEAN, THE DAMAGE
BEING DONE IS MONUMENTAL.
>>Jimmy: HOW MUCH OF YOUR
DESIRE TO RUN IS RELATED TO
DONALD TRUMP BEING PRESIDENT?
IN OTHER WORDS, IF SOMEONE, IF A
DECENT MAN LIKE JEB BUSH HAD WON
THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION,
WOULD, WOULD YOU FEEL AS
MOTIVATED TO RUN?
>>I GUESS THE HONEST ANSWER IS
NO.
LOOK, I HADN’T PLANNED ON
RUNNING AGAIN.
WHEN, WHEN MY SON PASSED, I, HE
MADE ME PROMISE I WOULDN’T TELL
ANYBODY HOW SERIOUS THE
CIRCUMSTANCE WAS.
SO MY STAFF STILL THOUGHT WE HAD
A CAMPAIGN IN WAITING.
AND WHEN I WENT OUT TO TELL THE
PRESIDENT THAT I TOLD HIM I WAS
DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO RUN
AFTER BEAU PASSED, I, HE SAID
COME DOWN TO THE WHITE HOUSE, TO
THE OVAL, WE’LL GO OUT TO THE
ROSE GARDEN, YOU MAKE AN
ANNOUNCE MONTH.
AND I SAID AT THE TIME WHEN I
WALKED OUT, I FLKNEW I’D BE ASKG
QUESTIONS IF I HAD ANY REGRETS.
I’D DONE THE CANCER MOON SHOT
AND WE’D MADE SO MUCH PROGRESS,
BUT EVEN THEN, I HADN’T PLANNED
ON RUNNING, UNTIL I SAW THOSE
PEOPLE, NOT A JOKE, JIMMY.
WHEN I SAW THOSE FOLKS IN
CHARLOTTESVILLE, COMING OUT OF
THE FIELDS, CARRYING TORCHES.
CONTORTED FACES, THEIR VEINS
BULGING, SHOUTING THE SAME
ANTI-SEMITIC BILE THAT WAS
SHOUTED IN THE STREETS OF
NUREMBERG AND BERLIN IN THE ‘3
0S, ACCOMPANIED BY THE KU KLUX
KLAN AND WHEN A WOMAN WAS KILLED
AND THE PRESIDENT WAS ASKED TO
RESPOND, AND HE SAID THERE WERE
VERY FINE PEOPLE IN BOTH GROUPS.
NO PRESIDENT HAS EVER, EVER SAID
ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THE POSSIBLE
EXCEPTION OF ANDREW JACKSON
BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR.
THAT’S WHEN I DECIDED, HOW CAN
I, I’VE SPENT MY WHOLE LIFE
DOING THIS, HOW CAN I REMAIN
SILENT?
BECAUSE I WAS RAISED BY A DAD
WHO TAUGHT ME SILENCE IS
COMPLICIT.
THIS IS THE WAY HE HAS TRIED TO
DIVIDE THIS COUNTRY AND PITTED
PEOPLE AGAINST ONE ANOTHER.
AND YOU SAW IT DIDN’T JUST END
WITH CHARLOTTESVILLE, LOOK WHAT
HAPPENED IN EL PASO RECENTLY,
YOU KNOW, YOUNG MAN SAYING I
SHOT ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THE
PARKING LOT BECAUSE THERE’S A
HISPANIC INVASION.
WELL, THE PRESIDENT JUST WEEKS,
AND THE 2018 OFF YEAR CAMPAIGN
KEPT SHOWING THAT VIDEO OF
PEOPLE MARCHING UP, WE’RE BEING
INVADED BY LATINOS AND MEXICANS
ARE RAPISTS, AND THIS DIVISION
IN OUR COUNTRY IS JUST SO
DEVASTATING, SO DEVASTATING FOR
SO MANY PEOPLE, AND IT’S RUINING
OUR STANDING AROUND THE WORLD,
IN A WAY THAT IS GOING TO BE
HARD TO — LOOK, WE CAN PROBABLY
HANDLE FOUR YEARS IF HE DOESN’T
GET US IN A WAR IN THE NEXT
YEAR, AND I’M NOT BEING A WISE
GUY.
I’M NOT BEING GLIB SAYING THAT.
BUT EIGHT YEARS OF DONALD TRUMP
WILL FUNDAMENTALLY ALTER THE
CHARACTER OF THIS NATION IN MY
VIEW.
AND I, WE CAN’T LET THAT HAPPEN.
>>Jimmy: WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS
ON, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT ONE OF
THE THINGS YOU BELIEVE STRONGLY
IS THAT WE CAN REACH ACROSS THE
AISLE, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS
CAN WORK TOGETHER.
YOU HAVE MANY FRIEND WHOSE ARE
REPUBLICANS.
IN FACT, LINDSEY GRAHAM TODAY
SAID HE CONSIDERS YOU TO BE ONE
OF HIS VERY GOOD FRIENDS AND
THEN SAID, YOU KNOW, AND THEN HE
TAGGED SOMETHING UNPLEASANT ONTO
IT.
WHY AREN’T MORE REPUBLICANS
STANDING UP AND SAYING HEY, THIS
IS, WE CAN’T GO ALONG WITH THIS
ANYMORE?
>>WELL, LOOK, FIRST OF ALL, I
DON’T KNOW OF ANY DEGREE OF
CERTAINTY, BUT DIEI DO HAVE A SE
THAT MOST OF THE TIME, WHEN A
REPUBLICAN IS BEATEN IN A STATE
THAT IS A PURPLE OR RED STATE,
MEANING REPUBLICAN OR
REPUBLICAN-LEANING STATE,
THEY’RE BEATEN ON THE RIGHT.
THEY’RE NOT BEATEN IN A GENERAL
ELECTION, THEY’RE BEATEN IN A
PRIMARY.
AND DONALD TRUMP HAS SORT OF A,
HE’S GOT THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN
PARTY, WHATEVER, 34% OF THE
PUBLIC OR 38, I DON’T KNOW, HE
HAS CONTROL OF THAT PART OF THE
PARTY.
AND SO IF YOU TAKE HIM ON,
EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW VINDICTIVE
HE IS AND HOW HE’LL GO AFTER
YOU.
SO THERE’S A GREAT CONCERN.
FOR EXAMPLE, BACK WHEN, WHEN
THEY WERE HOLDING UP, BEFORE
TRUMP GOT ELECTED.
THEY WERE HOLDING UP THE
NOMINATION OF THE PRESIDENT PUT
FORWARD FOR THE SUPREME COURT.
>>Jimmy: MERRICK GARLAND.
>>A FINE MAN, I CALLED 12
REPUBLICAN SENATORS, AND I SAID
THIS IS A TERRIBLE THING TO BE
DOING, YOU’RE SETTING AN AWFUL
PRECEDENT.
EVERY ONE BUT ONE ACKNOWLEDGED
THAT.
BUT THEY SAID YOU KNOW IF WE DO
THIS, IF WE CALL FOR A HEARING,
THE KOCH BROTHERS WILL DROP $10
MILLION, $12 MILLION INTO OUR
CAMPAIGN, AND I’LL HAVE A RACE
OR A PRIMARY.
IT’S GOTTEN DOUBLY WORSE SINCE
TRUMP GOT ELECTED.
I’M OF THE VIEW, LOOK, OUR
POLITICS IS BROKEN, NOT THE
SYSTEM.
THE POLITICS IS BROKEN.
AND IT’S GOTTEN SO MEAN AND UGLY
AND DIVISIVE THAT I JUST THINK
WITH HIM GONE THERE’S A CHANCE
FOR, TO RENEW LIFE AND DO WHAT
EVERYBODY KNOWS HAS TO BE DONE.
FOR EXAMPLE, AT THE END OF THE
LAST TERM, THE THING THAT’S VERY
PERSONAL TO YOU AND ME, HEALTH
CARE.
I CARE GREAT LAYLY ABOUT IT.
>>Jimmy: YES, YES.
>>AND BY THE WAY, I WANT TO
THANK YOU, NOT A JOKE.
[ APPLAUSE ]
DON’T UNDERESTIMATE WHAT YOU
DID, PAL.
YOU FUNDAMENTALLY, BECAUSE AS
YOU SAID, YOU POINTED OUT, FOLKS
LIKE YOU AND I HAVE GONE THROUGH
SOME DIFFICULT TIMES.
AT LEAST WE’VE HAD THE
WHEREWITHAL AND THE COVERAGE AND
THE HELP.
IMAGINE ALL THE PEOPLE, IF THE
LIGHTS WERE ON, IF I ASKED ALL
THE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO HAVE
HAD A CHILD THAT THEY LOST TO
CANCER OR A SERIOUS DISEASE OR A
SERIOUS PROBLEM AND HAD REAL,
REAL CONCERNS ABOUT A FAMILY
MEMBER WHO IS IN EXTREMIS, RAISE
YOUR HAND IF YOU HAVE BEEN
THROUGH ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
>>Jimmy: TOO MANY.
>>LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE OUT
THERE, JIMMY, WHO ARE DOING
THIS, GETTING UP EVERY DAY,
PUTTING ONE FOOT IN FRONT OF
YOUR FACE, WHAT YOU FACED WITH
YOUR CHILD, WHAT I FACED WITH MY
SON.
AND DIDN’T HAVE THE HELP WE WHO.
THEY’RE HEROES.
THEY GET UP EVERY DAY, AND I
MADE A COMMITMENT, AND I MEAN
IT.
IF I’M ELECTED PRESIDENT, I
GUARANTEE YOU, I’LL PROTECT YOUR
FAMILY’S HEALTH CARE JUST LIKE I
PROTECT MY OWN, AS IF IT WERE MY
OWN.
BECAUSE IT’S PERSONAL, PERSONAL.
>>Jimmy: VICE PRESIDENT JOE
BIDEN IS HERE, WE’LL BE RIGHT
BACK.
MR. VICE PRESIDENT, IF PRESIDENT
OBAMA HAD, AT SOME POINT DURING
HIS PRESIDENCY, PUT YOU IN
CHARGE OF AN IMAGINARY THING
CALLED THE SPACE FORCE, WOULD
YOU HAVE GONE ALONG WITH THAT?
IS THAT SOMETHING, A DUTY YOU
WOULD HAVE AGREED TO TAKE ON?
>>THE GOOD NEWS WAS THAT I
WORKED WITH A REALLY FINE MAN.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
AND THE DEAL WE MADE, HE ASKED
ME, WHEN HE ASKED ME TO JOIN, I
WAS FLATTERED HE ASKED ME TO
JOIN THE TINCKET, THE BEST
DECISION I EVER MADE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WORKED,
JIMMY, WE MADE A DEAL THAT WE
WOULD ALWAYS BE BLUNT WITH EACH
OTHER.
WE HAD LUNCH EVERY SINGLE DAY
WHEN WE WERE IN THE COUNTRY, AND
WE WOULD BE COMPLETELY STRAIGHT
WITH ONE ANOTHER.
I ASKED HIM WHY HE WANTED ME AS
VICE PRESIDENT, AND HE SAID I
KNOW YOU’LL NEVER BE INTIMIDATED
BY THE OFFICE.
YOU’LL TELL ME WHAT’S ON YOUR
MIND.
WE HAD A GREAT RELATIONSHIP.
WHEN HE GAVE ME AUTHORITY HE
GAVE ME PRESIDENT ALE AIAL AUTH.
WE AGREED ON 99% OF EVERYTHING.
>>Jimmy: YOU’RE OUT TALKING TO
PEOPLE ALL THE TIME.
WHAT IS THE NUMBER ONE SUBJECT
THEY BRING UP?
>>BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT
FLUCTUATES BETWEEN CLIMATE AND
GUNS.
>>Jimmy: MM-HM.
>>AND, YOU KNOW, THE GENERATION
THAT IS MOST ANXIOUS ABOUT THEIR
FUTURE TODAY ARE PEOPLE BETWEEN
15 AND 21.
BECAUSE OF GUNS.
THEY ASK WHAT IS THE WORST
THING, WHAT ARE THEY MOST
CONCERNED ABOUT?
THEY’RE CONCERNED ABOUT GOING
INTO SCHOOL AND GETTING SHOT.
>>Jimmy: YEAH, YEAH.
>>AND —
>>Jimmy: AND ALSO THE IDEA THAT
OUR PLANET IS —
>>AND SECONDLY AND MORE
IMPORTANTLY, QUITE FRANKLY ON
LONG RUN, IS OUR PLANET IS IN
REAL, REAL DIFFICULTY.
WE SHOULD BE ACTING AS IF THE,
LIKE JOHN KERRY SAYS, AS IF
WE’RE DECLARING WAR HERE.
THIS HAS TO BE A WAR ON DEALING
WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.
IT’S THAT CONSEQUENTIAL.
>>Jimmy: AT THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION, WHICH WERE YOU A
MAJOR PART OF, DO YOU WISH THAT
YOU’D DONE MORE AT THAT TIME?
>>WELL, ACTUALLY, WE DID AN
AWFUL LOT.
WE INVESTED OVER $100 BILLION,
$90 BILLION IN CLIMATE CHANGE.
I BACKED WAY BACK IN 1986
INTRODUCED THE FIRST CLIMATE
CHANGE BILL REQUIRING US TO
CHANGE OUR FOCUS, ET CETERA.
>>Jimmy: WHAT DID YOU START
THINKING ABOUT THAT IN 1986?
>>I COULD SEE IT WAS HAPPENING
IN MY STATE.
SPECIES WERE BEGINNING TO BE
LOST.
WE HAVE A LOT OF WETLANDS FROM
ALONG THE DELAWARE RIVER AND
DOWN THE DELAWARE BAY, AND WHAT
WAS HAPPENING IS THEY WERE
GOING, THEY WANTED TO BUILD
REFINERIES, I ENDED UP BEING
ABLE TO BLOCK THEM BY CHANGING
THE ZONING AND WE ENDED UP WITH
THE FIRST COASTAL ZONE ACT WHERE
NOTHING CAN BE BUILT WITHIN A
MILE OF THOSE WETLANDS, BUT
BECAUSE I SAW FROM THE FOLKS AT
THE UNIVERSITY OF DELAWARE, THE
MARINE BIOLOGISTS HOW MUCH
EVERYTHING WAS CHANGING, THE
POLLUTION OF THE WATERS.
LOOK WHAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS
DONE.
EVERY SINGLE BASIC RATIONAL
PIECE OF LEGISLATION OR CHANGE
WE MADE FROM THE CAFE STANDARDS,
HOW MANY MILES A CAR CAN GET,
NEED TO GET, ALL DWIGTHE WAY TO
ALLOWING COAL MINES TO DUMP
SLUDGE IN RIVERS TO DEALING WITH
MERCURY, EVERY ONE OF THOSE HE’S
WALK THE AWAY FROM.
>>Jimmy: NOT ONLY THAT, ACTED
AGAINST.
>>HE’S TAKEN THEM BACK.
ALLOWED THEM TO BE IN, ALLOWED
THE POLLUTERS TO CONTINUE.
AND HE GOES TO THE G-7, DOESN’T
SHOW UP AT THE CLIMATE MEETING.
HE ENDS UP AT THE U.N.
DOESN’T WANT ANY PART OF THE
CLIMATE.
LOOK AT WHAT THAT, I WONDER IF
THERE’S EVER BEEN A PRESIDENT,
THERE HAVE PROBABLY BEEN OTHER
HEADS OF STATE IN OTHER
COUNTRIES WHO HAVE ADDRESSED THE
U.N. AND NOT A SYLLABLE WAS
HEARD FROM ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF
THE UNITED NATIONS.
IN SUPPORT OF ANYTHING.
JUST SILENCE.
>>Jimmy: YEAH.
>>SILENCE.
>>Jimmy: MAYBE HE FIGURES SINCE
HE LIVES MOST OF THE TIME IN A
TANNING BED IT DOESN’T MATTER
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CLIMATE.
>>WELL, LOOK, THERE’S SO MUCH
WE CAN DO.
I AM, LOOK, AMERICA’S BETTER
POSITIONED TODAY THAN ANYTIME IN
MY LIFETIME TO LEAD THE WORLD IN
EVERYTHING FROM CLIMATE TO
CANCER TO DEALING WITH
REBUILDING THE MIDDLE CLASS TO
BRINGING THE WORLD TOGETHER.
WE HAVE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT
RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES IN THE
WORLD.
WE’RE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE
HAVE MORE GREAT RESEARCH
UNIVERSITIES THAN ALL THE REST
OF THE WORLD COMBINED.
WE’RE NAIN A POSITION WHERE OUR
WORKERS ARE THREE TIMES AS
PRODUCTIVE AS THOSE IN ASIA.
WE LEAD BY THE POWER BUT BY
POWER OF EXAMPLE.
WE HAVE SO MUCH GOING FOR US.
IT’S TIME AS AMERICANS TO STOP
FEELING SORRY, LIFT OUR HEAD,
THIS IS UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
THERE’S NOT A SINGLE THING WE
CAN’T DO.
I REALLY MEAN IT.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
THERE’S KNOWING BEYOND OUR
CAPACITY, NOTHING ONCE WE SET
OUR MIND TO IT.
>>Jimmy: MR. VICE PRESIDENT,
ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANT TO MAKE
AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?
>>I’M SAYING I WANT AMERICA TO
BE THE ENVY OF THE WORLD AGAIN.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>>Jimmy: THAT WOULD BE NICE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
HERE.
>>Jimmy: VICE PRESIDENT
JOE BIDEN!
HE’S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT

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